Recent reports around the internet have indicated the Raptors may be interested in striking a deal with the Bulls. I investigated the issue and found th
ere is a lot of truth to the rumors. The Raptors seem very interested in Andres Nocioni and may be willing to deal Jermaine O’neal to the Bulls to get him. A trade that has been discussed involved Nocioni and Larry Hughes going to Toronto with O’neal coming to the Chicago. The Raptors, however, are trying to come up with different variations of deals that would bring Nocioni and Drew Gooden to Toronto. Another deal the teams discussed involved Nocioni, Gooden and Tyus Thomas to Toronto for O’neal and a filler, but the Bulls felt they would be giving up too much. Look for the talks between Toronto and Chicago to heat up the closer we get to the trading deadline, a deal very likely could go down.
Update Apology: To those of you who follow the site, I want to apologize for not updating recently. I have been on vacation so my Bulls information slowed significantly. The closer we get to the trading deadline the more Rumor Press will heat up. Keep checking for updates.
Thanks for the update, Tech.
Any chance the Bulls trade Deng? Or Paxson lacks balls to get rid of him after handing him a big, fat contract?
If accurate, there’s a couple things to consider.
1.Hughes/Noc for O’Neal puts us over the luxury tax. By playing around with fillers, I think there’s a way around it. Add Aaron Gray from our side and Nathan Jawai from there side, and we sneak in under the LT while not pushing them back over.
2. Judging by Victor’s comments, the Raptors don’t want to take on Hughes. As much as I’d like to be rid of Noc, I don’t see any freaking way we can do this trade without forcing them to take back Hughes too. I suppose some variant of Hinrich and Noc for O’Neal might get it done, but I think more can be gotten for those two. O’Neal is not without his warts, and the only other alternative I see at this point is to buy Hughes out. Yuck.
3. I can definitely see why the Raptors would want Gooden, but I can’t see how to give him over without a) killing our cap space for next year and/or b) putting them over the luxury tax. Unless they want to give up Bargnani too, but why would they give up both O’Neal and Bargnani. That’d be crazy. Likewise, taking back Jason Kapono would be pretty dumb for us.
Here is pretty much the only thing I can figure that
1. Keeps both teams under the LT threshold
2. Doesn’t completely kill any of our cap space for next year.
Hughes, Noc, Gooden
for
O’Neal, Parker, Graham
This still increases our team salary by $1.8M next year, so we probably need to figure out a way to get some savings by dealing Kirk, Thabo or our draft pick to have any chance of re-signing BG. But there’s time to deal with that issue, so I’d do this trade.
That gives the Bulls very little margin for error with the LT (my numbers could be off). I think that puts them $14k under. To get a little more breathing room, they could do
Hughes/Noc/Gooden/Gray (or Ruffin or Hunter)
for
O’Neal, Parker, Graham, Jawaii (or Voskuhl)
If the Raptors need more inducement, you could add in Thabo and take out Gray, the Raptors would have to include two more of Solomon/Moon/Voskuhl), so you’re really starting to make it a hard trade there (though, admittedly we’re talking about minor players). The Raps get 4 guys and trade 6, so the Bulls would end up having to cut Ruffin or Hunter. But I suppose it could be done.
I’m guessing this gets you laid somewhere? Because I clearly never get laid. Otherwise, I can’t really figure out the glory in having “predicted Roger Mason, Jr.’s injury”, Jalen Rose trade, the Ben Wallace trade, and predicting most of the bulls draft picks? For what it’s worth, I presaged JamesOn Curry’s public urination by more than 5 years.
^^What kind of an idiot are you? Where does it say that Tech “predicted” anything? A two year old could figure out by reading his “about” section that obviously, he didn’t “predict” Roger Mason Jr’s injury. What Tech was talking about was that he was the first to BREAK the story of RMJ’s injury. Clearly, intelligence isn’t your strong suit.
Tech doesn’t “predict” anything. Like you said, a nimrod like yourself could sit behind a computer and make predictions. Tech knows people in the organization and relays what his sources are telling him as “rumors,” and he BREAKS stories before the newspapers/TV stations/beat writers report them — again, because he has contacts within the organization.
He lists all those incidents in his “About” section to support his claim that he is the “#1 source for Bulls rumors.”
So, is anorexorcism one of the monotards from RealGM that actually buys this tripe? And does he/she put out? Because I havent gotten laid in years
I think that the raps and bulls need to shake things up. the only way i see this deal going down is if Hughes is involved. the guy is a huge health risk, but when healthy he is a great player who can handle the rock.
I would like to see some raw athleticm come back to the raps. maybe Tyrus thomas or Noah. Oneil for Gooden and Nocioni would be decent though.
yea but all these rumors are reality!!And screw Oneal he will make this team worse.
^^Who cares if it makes the team worse. His contract expires in 2010 allowing us to get a Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, LeBron James, or Amare.
Jeff is right. this deal would be to make the raps better and clear space for the bulls. the bulls need to do something though. they really suck!
imagine if they knew what they had in Brand, Miller, Artest, Chandler etc. they would be a different team, but this is an easy comment to make years later
Granville… if you think the site is stupid, why visit it? And WHY comment on it?? Even if Tech isn’t right, you look like a bigger loser coming on here as a nobody and commenting on it.
If you don’t like it, don’t read it you idiot.
Shut up Granville. You have no proof to back it up and greg is right. You visit this site just to hate on it??? That’s low, man!!
this site is decent and the info on it as well. first off, why are multiple sites using this as the source? look at the main page and not one of all the rumored trades have gone down OR EVEN TALKED ABOUT IN ESPN OR ANY MAJOR SPORTS SOURCE. i’m a bulls fan but this site is full of it just like I am.
I mean, granted, i realize I’m a big faggot myself… i suck mens d’s on a daily basis, but it’s still fun to be a loser and go on other people’s websites and bash them… because obviously I’m a faceless loser.
lame.
I mean i dont trust the site either but the Trade talk with Toronto was mentioned on David Thorpe’s Chat today on Espn.com so there might be some truth. Plus the trade itself makes some sense for both. I for one dont like this site but i feel this rumor does have some legs
Man it would be great if the bulls got JO for a combo of Hughes/Nocioni,and then trade for T mac and stock up on those 2010 expirings. For those who think this site is full of shit why visit it for? Not all trades that get discussed actually happen believe it or not. Tech has mentioned plenty of rumors over the years, in fact mid december last yr mentioned that the cavs/bulls were discussing a Ben Wallace/Larry Hughes swap with Gooden and Hinrich also swapping sides and in feb the trade happened as you know with Joe Smith and Adrian griffin leaving instead of Hinrich.
this site was on top of the wallace trade and the deng and gordon signings, aka the ONLY deals the bulls have done in the last year. it’s also proven to be right about larry hughes, that the bulls arent showcasing him and were only playing him because they needed someone for minutes while hinrich was out. i trust this site as much as any source, keep up the good work.
TechN9ne is a great source. I’ve tried to donate money to this site, but unfortunately the donate button won’t work. I’ve also have been messaging Tech and he’s responded to a few of my questions.
Keep up the good work!
If you don’t like this website, then why are you visiting it? You have no life, rob.
?? editing what posts? what the hell is this damn loser talking about…. man get over it! take your annoying conspiracies somewhere else, you’re a huge LOSER
Trade LOL Deng.
He is the most overrated player I have seen wearing a Bulls uni.
Because he just dissapears in games and doesnt tend to make silly turnovers, people believe he is a great player while reading a boxscore.
And he is injury prone.
Trade him Pax, I want Bosh or Amare!